NDN Science Show

A podcast about science... and Indin' Stuff

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We didn't have a clue what to name the show when we started recording,

but we did it anyway and found out that,

for us, this podcast is about hope for our future.


It’s also about how science and spirituality are not separate...

and it’s about learning how to listen again, something our ancestors did well.


The idea of integrating Indigenous knowledge into Western science has been around for a while now. It’s most grounded in the realms of ecology but has foundations in a much more holistic approach to understanding the world and our nature as humans. The idea of integration seems noble on the surface, but it lacks the depth required in order to understand that we don’t need integration.

We need a revolution.


Not the genocidal revolutions you hear about in history class, but a scientific revolution. A revolution that involves learning how to learn and listening to all our relations. One that rekindles the humility that gave our ancestors the insights that guided them through the millennia to create cultures that honored responsibility. This kind of revolution is not just for humans but also our plant, animal, rock, and water relatives. It’s about saving the planet with Indigenous science.


The notion of NDN science didn’t jump out at us right away, but it’s central to the theme of this podcast. Being Indigenous in the modern world is a challenge none of us are prepared for when we’re kids, but it’s a challenge we are all facing. The NDN Science Show is meant to capture our sense of humor and that life isn’t so damn serious all the time. It's also about our ability to observe deeply and understand how the world works. It’s a show where we have conversations about science in Indin’ Country... and how it’s still possible to be Indigenous in the modern world.

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